A personal thank you!

To all ranter members,
When I first joined Ranter I was a little concerned mainly as I did not fully understand the methods and style of things on here!
I must be honest and say that the language etc had me concerned! This is my problem though and I have adjusted to it.
One of the things that took me totally by surprise was the compassion and caring that was extended to me as a noob.
Apart from the tongue in cheek slagging (A ranter norm ) I was given a fair hearing and was very appreciative of the advice that was given freely, warning me about taking on eater by myself!

This was totally unexpected and was a good indication that the members were genuine people who worked in a fair and reasonable manner!
probably as a lot of members had undergone 'the treatment' by the cretins on eater for themselves, still it was kind of them to openly give me this advice!
More recently I have also been surprised that the members have put up with my bad typing and also given me a fair hearing! Despite my having to post my point of view in sometimes an odd sort of way!

You must remember that I have been fighting the injustices of Twinkytown and the alliance, by myself for a long time and as I have been facing a large group of people, I have had to adopt some methods differently that those normally used ! otherwise I would have been wiped out by vastly larger numbers! again you have shown me a clear opportunity to state my case! thank you " AL "

Ok now you mob of losers can get back down the mine and back to work you slackers!

Eatyo blows it again!

I suppose that the admins on The alliance, will eventually realize that using duals and trying the old Al bashing tricks will not work! and every time they try it they lose even more credibility!
Both aldavor (the man of no honour) and eatyo/thunderchild have now removed the derogatory comments on their signatures both here and on SB.
As this was only showing them to be idiots and has resulted in even more members leaving! this is a good start for them but it is only a small gesture!

So here are more posts showing eatyo to be a liar yet again!
He posted on sb saying that he would not be renewing a post office box due to the COST!! and when another member kindly offered to help in paying this ENORMOUS cost, he back peddled like mad and said it was suddenly not possible due to PHYSICAL difficulties. This was NOT mentioned in his original excuse!
It is now obvious that the whole Alliance is now being run on lies and deceit! as the many points I have proven to be true clearly show!


note this-"Due to other financial obligations" NOTHING about physical at all.

And note this-", and once I am in a position to afford another,"

The alliance in disarray, ils hits a new low

The alliance now seems to be in disarray.
sb has got so few posts that they have introduced rss feeds to try and make it look like something is going on! They have noobs waiting weeks for mentors as they now have so few. To show how serious things are now, I actually saw where thunderchild was nice to someone who asked about things!

Has he been told?

The last time I was in anti 419 academy even their own mods were asking what had gone wrong!

Fraudwatchers has closed down with aldavor (the man of no honour) saying that it has been under ddos attack?? I am unsure about this as he has been shown to lie to the members in the past!
He has put the words 'man of no honour' under his avatar the same as mike did with his bad comments! (clone) however it is good that he agrees with me!

The most despicable act I have ever seen has taken place on internet love scams: they are now asking for money from VICTIMS!!

So after preaching about taking the high moral ground, they are now trying to get money from victims who are in some cases emotionally distraught, and vulnerable! and in many cases may also feel OBLIGATED to anyone who has helped them with what could be the most terrible experience of their lives!!

This I find totally reprehensible! and marks a new low from the very people who profess to be helping the victims!!
I told Witch that ils had ceased to exist, as the site that a lot of us had worked so hard for and this proves it !

I now have good evidence that there is yet another long time member of the alliance who has access to the eater admin quarter! As well as to 'Death star"
So who is now actually running the alliance??

Why are the alliance admins keeping quiet about these eater admins on their sites Despite repeated requests to explain ?
This person is also scamming and actually running a team of scammers, so it makes him an oga! This asks the question "where are his victims coming from" ?? There are a steady stream of victims going through the alliance and eater sites for these parasites to pick from!

Maybe it would be an idea for the admins to deal with the genuine crooks instead of persecuting and banning members who have only ever worked hard to assist and build up the alliance sites! but have the failing of wanting to stand up to them when falsely accused! However since the clacton meet we have seen the hassling of members who have leo connections or who would stand up to these sorts of things! Exactly the same as on eater! WHY??

Just the truth

During this entire episode I have proven that I am telling the truth many times, some proof has even been the actual words of the liars involved!
I have proved conclusively, IN THEIR OWN WORDS that aldavor and Witch, two alliance admins have lied to members, so it would make sense to think that they would lie again to Ranters!
What more proof can I offer apart from a signed statement by the other parties?
The admins have provided lots of lies, Diverting things and twisting of the truth and eventually falsified messages, in an attempt to 'prove' their point which seems to consist solely of character assassination, but they have given very little, if any proof of their statements! This has become more apparent as things progressed!

You have seen how they twist and turn but do not answer direct questions like the ones about 'Lotta'. Why is this? Surely the members on here and the alliance have a right to know why an eater admin is a mod on the alliance?

I am very sure that due to the many alliance members who have had the opportunity to have their say, that if they had any real proof of any bad things that I had done they would have produced it by now! with great glee!
The fact that by now they have not done so can only mean that they do not have any!

All I have seen is the same old eater tactic of character assassination, so that the truth will not be believed, as this is their only defense against the truth!
I was at first treated with suspicion by many members as you have seen by the posts.
One person who treated me with suspicion was 'Manchy' and he asked me many questions that I answered truthfully!

I do not know what other checks he carried out, but he did ask some searching questions and I presume based his opinions on the answers and things he found out!
As far as I can see he is not a person to be easily misled and I believe he does check on things before he ventures an opinion!
I am sure that he would not say things until he had checked them out throughly first!

Here is a post showing that 'vinnie' exists ! It is one of many that I have showing that 'Vinnie" is not imaginary!
Unlike you I can back up my statements!

Below was a reply sending by Mr Rover, Admin of 419eater.org:

Hi there,

The issue is really simple. Vinnie had sent death threats to you. At the time I did not realize that you were not a user / member of 419eater.org - however that is NOT important to me or the moderators of 419eater. We have received various emails that Vinnie had sent out - your one was among them. We all felt that if Vinnie had sent a death threat to ANYBODY - it is NOT someone that we want to have on our system. I asked him if he had sent the death threat - he said yes! I banned him from our system.

Hopefully that clears up our position on this issue. A death threat is illegal it is not something we want any user on 419eater associated with. It is for that reason that we ban Vinnie.

Kind Regards

Rover (419Eater - Admin) 419rover@gmail.com

Please post your proof to back up YOUR statement !

If you cannot, after being called out twice, I suggest you go back to closing false banks down as you are good at this!

I find it strange that both you and G R , seem to be following exactly the same path as T C and knightly? As though you were being schooled in what to say?
This is, not posting any proof but continuing to try and show that I am crazy!
A tactic that has been the main line of attack for the admins who have nothing else to fight with as their entire case is built on lies!

So how about it? POST your proof!

Phase two

It seems to be a standard practice for some sites to attempt massive character assassination when any one is banned for telling the truth!
This seems to be done to try and make sure that the person who has been banned will not be believed and any truth they post will then be suspect! This has been the case by both eater and the alliance in my case and to others who say the truth.

It is now spilling over to the people who support me, re some recent comments on here!

As the admins on the alliance have seen fit to try to portray me as crazy, it is only fair that I defend myself, remember they started this attack!

First of all I have never seen any doctor nor taken any medicine for any type of mental disorder and as far as I know no relatives of mine have either!

However, lets look at some of the people who are making these false allegations!

As I have also been falsely accused on internet love scams as well, I will talk about this group, remember this is the group that are dealing with emotional and sometimes suicidal victims. They have the following as ADMINS on ILS. I call this:

'The comedy of errors'

They have the following!

A male admin who is an alcoholic.

A female admin who is a self confessed 'bi polar' sufferer.

A female admin who also has a drink problem and has presided over the most destructive episode in the scambaiting history by telling lies about cop cars coming around to investigate and the 'rolling over' of a completely innocent colleague!

A male admin who has confessed that he cannot handle victims, and that he has emotional problems, he has since been removed as a liability!

A male admin who has also said that he cannot handle victims and is an admin, yet he has never posted on there.

A male admin who has lied to the members on his sites about reading pm's.

A female mod who has attempted suicide and runs away when confronted with one who needs help on ils.

A female mod who has massive problems with her parents, who are involved with a type of religious cult, and are against her using computers.

A female mod who is an admin on eater! enough said!!

The sickest of all, they have allowed 'Vinnie' who has issued sick death threats against fellow baiters to be a member, using three different names, one female and two male and then promoted him to a mod position!


AND THEY SLAP ME!! for sending a motivational song to a victim that was VERY successful.
And they try and say that I am a danger to victims!! BULLSHIT!!

Then they wonder why I expose them and their lies!

They also have people who have hounded victims to try and get them to bait their scammers, a VERY dangerous thing to do!

So now you can make up your own minds as to who is crazy!

Please remember that they started this attack on my character, I did not want to go down this road, but I will defend myself!

So they only have them selves to blame when I do defend myself!

__________________
From Witch (alliance admin) to Big Al.
"You are a warm and compassionate person,and have done some truly wonderful things on ILS"
"Absolutely correct,and your ideas are still sound.
Please stay with us and help Post your ideas and concerns, they are valuable and so are you."

From Aldavor/Kwae. (alliance admin) to Big Al.
"I'm sorry it has come to this, as I have always found you to be a
stalwart member of the entire community. I would say that you are more than welcome to remain in a
user/member capacity for as long as you want, and if you decide to take a break from us, you will always be welcomed on your return. Regards Kwae"
"Let me repeat, Al: I am sorry for my particular statement regarding the public posting of the thread that implied you to be a liar, and I retract that particular sentence unreservedly."

From Lotta. (eater admin/alliance mod ). to Big Al.
Just before she shopped me. said:
"That is really really sad about how you're bring treated. :-(
You have done a wonderful job with ILS. I visited recently and was very impressed."

The plot thickens

It is obvious thet the people who put a keylogger on my pc and changed the password to my blog, have the skills that are to be found in the Group Known as " Death Star' and another group known as 'Alpha Delta Bravo' headed I believe by Rover of Twinkietown fame!
For the tech people, here are the headers and a couple of ip's from the hacker.
Ip = 66.111.4.28
Ip=4.79.188.50

The death of democracy on scambaits

When I first joined the alliance it was a well run site, with many references by the management to the fact that it was run on democratic lines and was FOR THE MEMBERS!
This proved to be the case until the meet in Clacton (more about this later)
After the meet, a change took place and the alliance suddenly became the copy of eater in the way it was run!
As you have seen with Banning, harassing, slapping noobs and all those things that eater is infamous for, all the while the management were still saying that it was run for the members (democratic) by the members.

However when I was attacked by a fellow member (who later apologized as he had misunderstood)
I asked for some clarification as it had become ridiculous, for when ever I posted anything it was attacked by the admins (democratic hey) ?? I received a pm from Thunderchild (you lot started posting pms) Where amongst his usual sarcastic and insulting sayings that he is well known for, being the best he can do when upset!
Came this revelation, that explained so much and proved beyond doubt that either he was lying or the management were!

re more crit'icism

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Ok management, -Please advise what i do when confronted by more of this ?as i get threatened by you if i defend myself.? Yet comments like this are allowed to be made on this and other forums? Can we have some official guidelines to cover this sort of thing?? or is it ok for some members to do it but not for others? You know, reality and the grasp thereof is not a very big strong point with you is it? i get threatened by you if i defend myself.? No you do not. You get told off for being an idiot and dumping non-Alliance crap on OUR forum. You did that on SB and have been told off for it. Deal with it. Yet comments like this are allowed to be made on this and other forums? You will notice that the post was removed. Next time you take objection to someone's very accurate remarks, USE THE REPORT BUTTON instead of spitting out yet more shit on the forum. Can we have some official guidelines to cover this sort of thing?? or is it ok for some members to do it but not for others? This forum is run by RULE not democracy. If you do not like how this site is run, ask an Admin to close your account and leave us all in peace. or is it ok for some members to do it but not for others? When you become a thorn in people's sides for being a trouble-maker, you will find that many others will never take you seriously. If you can't handle the occasional snyde remark, push off somewhere else. I would be happy to see your reply, but I do not expect you have the intellectual capacity to even comprehend this message, nor the intelligence to reply in a cohearant manner. I do however wish you the very best of luck with 419Legal.org now that has been taken over by ... no wait, I'm not even going to tell you who the site is being run by now... I imagine you will find that out on your own.

You know, reality and the grasp thereof is not a very big strong point with you is it?

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i get threatened by you if i defend myself.?

No you do not. You get told off for being an idiot and dumping non-Alliance crap on OUR forum. You did that on SB and have been told off for it. Deal with it.

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Yet comments like this are allowed to be made on this and other forums?

You will notice that the post was removed. Next time you take objection to someone's very accurate remarks, USE THE REPORT BUTTON instead of spitting out yet more shit on the forum.

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Can we have some official guidelines to cover this sort of thing?? or is it ok for some members to do it but not for others?

This forum is run by RULE not democracy. If you do not like how this site is run, ask an Admin to close your account and leave us all in peace.

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or is it ok for some members to do it but not for others?

When you become a thorn in people's sides for being a trouble-maker, you will find that many others will never take you seriously. If you can't handle the occasional snyde remark, push off somewhere else.

I would be happy to see your reply, but I do not expect you have the intellectual capacity to even comprehend this message, nor the intelligence to reply in a cohearant manner.

I do however wish you the very best of luck with 419Legal.org now that has been taken over by ... no wait, I'm not even going to tell you who the site is being run by now... I imagine you will find that out on your own.

I have included the whole pm as they would only try and justify their position by saying that it was not complete!
This part is the one of interest:

This forum is run by RULE not democracy. If you do not like how this site is run, ask an Admin to close your account and leave us all in peace.

So there you have it from his own mouth that there IS NO DEMOCRACY on sb! yet more lies again! SEIG HEIL HERR THUNDERCHILD!!

Oh and you may find it interesting to check out his spelling! you may note he put part of the word as RANT? it should be coherent!!

Just so that we do not get our wires crossed and undo the work
done so far I wrote this

I do not believe that the sites per se,
are allied with eater but there are senior members in both camps! Who
are working in secret.
As proven by the secrecy about Lotta/ Calamity Jane and why This was
such a sensitive issue!
You have seen the almost panic reaction to her being exposed! and the
frenetic posting by senior management on here and "the truth blog" when
I revealed this info, even bringing Varod/ knightly out into the open to
do some Al bashing! This from one who prefers to stay in the background!

As I am only telling the truth, their only reaction can be to try and
portray me as a nutcase, so that I will not be believed! as the last
you Add It up for yourself and ask why?

I have never said that the two sites are 'joined' but that senior
members are in both camps! as things progress you will see this is
true! for example:

We now see a situation where LOTTA/ Calamity Jane is an admin on eater
and also still a mod on various alliance sites!
When she first joined she was kicked out and then re-admitted!against the wishes of some senior members at that time! what deal did she do to get back in?
Now if she is in with the alliance then why has she been made an admin on eater?
And if she is in with mike then the alliance management have been made to look like right fools! And as has been said mike would NOT promote anyone who was not 100% eater! ergo the alliance management are fools!

Knowing what we do about the quality of the mods on eater, I can only
guess what one has to be like to become an admin! yet we still see the
alliance defending her! why? We see that I have been banned from ils on
trumped up charges, yet an eater ADMIN is still on there as a mod??

When they have slammed eater mods and admins so badly on 'the truth'
They now defend and support one?

You will all have noticed that the alliance management is VERY
reluctant to even mention her name! let alone discuss her role between
both sites!
They would not mention her name at all until I made it very clear who it
was by continuously mentioning her name ! They have even threatened
members who mention her double role or reveal that they are the same
person! again why!
Again you see the latest answer from Knightly with no answer to my
question about Lotta! Ditto for Thunderchild! What role has she been playing that they will not
even mention her names together? More deceit for their members !